Does the New Moon worship day start at the conjunction?
Will the New Moon worship days fall on a seventh-day in the new earth?
The lunar sabbath theory
Does the earth rotate around the sun, or does the sun revolve around the earth?
Suspending the Earth between two balls
Axial Tilt of Earth and Seasons
The Lunar Synodic Month
Should Christians keep or observe the feasts of the Old Testament?

Queries about the New Moon worship day

This was a hard page to title. Queries may not be the exact correct name. One thought was to answer some really odd objections but just objections isn't really right either. In the end I went with queries.

Basically this is to answer any odd points that crop up about the new moon worship day. There aren't really that many but there are some that just keep cropping up. And one of them really peeves me. So here we go....

Also don't expect full answers here. Some answers may be on other pages I have constructed so to avoid rebuilding the wheel I will just refer the reader to those pages.

Does the New Moon worship day start at the conjunction?

Actually I was quite impressed with the approach this brother took in his study. He had a really good diagram showing the Earth Moon position at conjunction and a great argument that the moon was then building for the next lunar month. In case anyone isn't following this the conjunction is the exact point when the Moon is between the Earth and the Sun. It would be at the very middle of what we call the astronomical new moon phase that you see on your wall calendar.

The main problem with this of course is that it just doesn't follow the Bible construction for a day. And that of course is the main basis I use for the NT Bible Model I constructed for the new moon worship day. What we call the lunar synodic month is exactly One Moon Day. This is explained completely in my study The Search for Chodesh.

And just how does this affect the conjunction theory? Well if the lunar month is building from the very point of conjunction and we use that for the start of the new moon worship day then the exact same argument must be applicable to the Biblical day.

Remember, the lunar synodic month is One Moon Day so whatever approach we take with the Biblical lunar month can be applied to the Bible day. So using the exact same reasoning the Bible day must start at midnight as this would then give the exact point for the next day to start building. Try selling that to a Jew. It just won't work. According to the Bible a day starts at sunset, not at midnight.

Will the New Moon worship days fall on a seventh-day in the new earth?

This is the one that really peeves me. Some sabbath-keeping Christians propose this to get around keeping the New Moon worship day. Well why keep the day if the New Moon days are going to fall on a seventh-day in the new earth? In case you don't get this, this is referring to Isaiah where he states God's people will worship from new moon to new moon and from sabbath to sabbath. The argument postulated is that the new moons will fall on a sabbath so you don't have to worry about any other day than the sabbath!

And just how is this postulated? Well that's easy—this world is pretty messed up especially since the flood. Everything went out of wack—the axis of the earth probably tilted and the length of the lunar month changed from exactly 28 days to what it is now. So in the new earth the Lord puts everything back the way it was and the lunar months being of EXACTLY 28 days the new moon worship day will fall on a seventh-day.

I may not be able to answer this completely but I believe I can show that it is total bunk.

1. None of the other moons in the solar system have integer length orbital periods. Some planets have a LOT of moons. I will just quote the planet, number of moons, and just one moon randomly selected. Just to quote a few:

Mars 2: Deimos 1.26244 days
Jupiter 67: Europa 3.551181 days
Saturn 62: Dione 2.736915 days
Uranus 27: Ariel 2.520379 days
Neptune 13: Nereid 360.1362 days

There are also some moons listed for dwarf planets in our solar system. Our most famous dwarf planet is of course Pluto which was downgraded from full planet status a few years ago.
The site did not state whether these were all Earth days or the day for each planet. But to be consistent they are most likely Earth days. I also apologise if there are any spelling mistakes or numerical copied mistakes.

Possible problem: these are all orbital lengths. The lunar synodic month is from new moon to new moon and is different from the orbital or sidereal month lengths given above. Granted the synodic month lengths for all of these moons are different but it is still very unlikely that any of them would turn out to be an exact integer. If anyone wants to work them out--go ahead and knock yourself out.

And of course to argue that the flood on Earth affected all the orbital lengths of these moons is just plain ridiculous.

2. That the Earth has seasons from the Creation is clear from the scriptures.

And God said, "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years,
Gensis 1:14.

That we have seasons and this involves the tilt of the Earth's axis it is clear this is from the Creation. The tilt and the seasons were not brought about by the flood.

3. The difference between the week and the month at Creation. Consider the verses:

And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years,
and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so.
And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth,
to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:14-18.
Thou hast made the moon to mark the seasons; the sun knows its time for setting.
Psalm 104:19.
You created the moon to mark the months; the sun knows the time to set.
Psalm 104:19 Good News Bible.

The early chapters of Genesis give us the construction of the week. The week has seven days. Each day is a period of 24 hours. The week is a period of seven days. The day has to do with the rotation of the Earth about its axis. The week is constructed of seven Earth days.
The Biblical lunar month has to do with the rotation of the Moon about the Earth--and not just one rotation, a sidereal month, but from new moon to new moon, a synodic month. This is completely different from the rotation of the Earth or any multiple of it. There is no intimation whatsoever that the lunar synodic month is any multiple of a week of seven days!

4. The reasoning from Isaiah. Basically the verses:

For as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make shall remain before me, says the LORD; so shall your descendants and your name remain.
From new moon to new moon, and from sabbath to sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before me, says the LORD.
Isaiah 66:22,23.

The comment from Isaiah has to do with worshipping God. He mentions the new moon AND the sabbath days. If the new moon worship days will exactly overlap the sabbath worship days then why in the world mention them? Why not just say from sabbath to sabbath?? It just doesn't make any sense to mention the new moon worship days if they fall on exactly the same days as the sabbaths. There is only one possible conclusion that can be drawn. And that is that there is no exact overlap.

Because the current synodic month length is not an exact multiple of 7 the new moon worship days as we have them now cycle through the week nearly twice each year. There is no reason to believe that this will change in the new earth.

5. The silence of the Jews about the lunar month length being messed up from the Creation. To date I have not read anything from the Jews about how upset they are that the original length of the lunar synodic month has been messed up. The conclusion from this is clear. It hasn't.

The postulation that the Moon will have a synodic month length of exactly 28 days in the new earth is no longer worthy of any comment.

Postscript on this

Some people push a creation calendar based on this premise: the correct lunar synodic month length being exactly 28 days in the new earth. Or 30 days or any integer length for that matter. The above answer to an exact integer length of 28 days shows that any such creation calendar proposed is not correct.

The lunar sabbath theory

This is from some correspondence on this matter:

Received 2013 Aug 2
from "Mike"
Shalom. Do you have any information within the tanakh that shows the 7th day Sabbath is not based on the lunar sabbath doctrine ?

My reply:
Dear Mike
This is probably not really answering your question but listing some thoughts on the lunar sabbath theory:
I have only been aware of the lunar sabbath belief for a short while. But from a couple of sites I have looked at which are pushing this view it would be safe to conclude that the mechanics behind it are a bit messy. However, it appears to have strong support from one of it's brothers, the creation calendar. ...
Without getting into the mechanics of the lunar sabbath approach I believe that the following nevertheless shows that it is very unlikely to be correct:

  • The original week is given as seven days. 6 working days followed by the seventh-day sabbath. There are no other days mentioned.
    Especially important here is the naming of the days of the week according to the Bible:
    the first day to the sabbath
    the second day to the sabbath
    the third day to the sabbath
    the fourth day to the sabbath
    the fifth day to the sabbath
    the sixth day to the sabbath
    the sabbath
    You can't add or subtract from this list as the lunar sabbath approach does--missing days at the end of the month etc.
    The intimation from Scripture later is that the first day of each Bible lunar month is called the new moon.

  • there is no intimation anywhere that the Bible lunar month is any multiple of seven days.
    Interestingly the mention in Isaiah is from new moon to new moon and from sabbath to sabbath. These two lengths: the month and the week are completely different. There is no reason to believe that one is any multiple of the other.

  • the length of the actual astronomical lunar synodic month is not fixed. The Jewish calendar uses a fixed length and as a result Jewish new moon days may not occur at the correct day each month.* This point is very important as it also impacts on the creation calendar approach which takes the months of the year as all exactly the same length. And it is for this reason that the creation calendar approach can be shown to be wrong as is also the lunar sabbath theory.

  • If I have this right the lunar sabbath theory rests very strongly on a strained interpretation of Ezekiel 46:1 to build the argument that the new moon day is not a seventh-day sabbath or one of the other 6 days of the week. So it has to go somewhere else and that somewhere else is of course the first day of the month. As mentioned in point 1 this messes up the naming of the week days somewhere.

  • the fourth commandment states we are to remember the sabbath day, not the new moon worship day. The six days are mentioned in relation to the sabbath but not the new moon.

  • Back to Ezekiel again. Though one of the strongest arguments for the new moon is from Isaiah nevertheless trying to restructure the sabbath days according to Ezekiel is really too late in the Old Testament to do this. The groundwork for the seventh-day sabbath has been laid well before this starting in Genesis. Trying to reshuffle everything according to a strained interpretation of a verse in Ezekiel is just too late in Biblical history.

Anyway you may or may not not agree with all of this but these are my thoughts. There also appear to be quite a few sites which show the lunar sabbath theory is not correct.

kind regards

Does the earth rotate around the sun, or does the sun revolve around the earth?1

Really? Where did this come from? And why here in a queries page about the New Moon worship day?
Actually a pretty simple answer: a document pushing this was found on a site dedicated to the creation calendar and lunar sabbath theory.
And now we can add to the list the point that these people also believe that the Sun orbits the Earth, and not the Earth orbiting the Sun.
Yes, you read this right. We are now dealing with stuff like straight out of the Flat Earth Society. So here we go...

Now before leaping into this we should in all fairness commend these people for wanting to follow the Bible. There is nothing wrong with that. However, God does expect His people to also use a bit of common sense. As it says in His holy word: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thess 5:21 KJV. Newer versions use "test" instead of prove.

OK. First their justification. They refer to some verses in the Bible about the sun rising and setting etc and conclude that the Bible teaches that the Sun orbits the Earth.

Well the Bible may have verses saying something like this but we need to consider some points here:

Point 1. The Bible was given in simple language and observing the Sun through the day one could easily conclude that the Sun is orbiting the Earth so there should be no problem writing this observation to other people in language that is easy to understand. And we still use this sort of language in this modern age of the 21st Century. We still talk of sunsets and sunrises but the majority of people in this world probably don't believe that the Sun is orbiting the Earth when they say this.

Point 2. This is using the Bible as it was not meant to be used. God did not bring the Bible into existence as a text book on how this Solar System works. It is a spiritual book which outlines a spiritual path that His people are to follow on their walk to Heaven and eternity. And the Bible clearly tells us this. The weapons of our warfare are spiritual, not carnal or earthy.
Those who try to use the Bible in other ways can easily fall into a mess like these people who want to believe that the Sun orbits the Earth.
And the above mentioning of the Flat Earth Society apparently is not without some relevance. An investigation of their origins shows that they believed that the Bible supported the idea that the Earth was flat and immovable.
For more info, see page:

Point 3. Anyone can do a simple scientific experiment that shows that the Earth orbits the Sun and not the other way around, though we can probably credit Galileo with leading the charge here. Remember his famous experiment about dropping two metal balls from the leaning tower of Pisa? He proved that under the force of gravitation, the two metal balls of different mass fell at the same rate of acceleration.

And what did gravity cause the balls to do? They fell to the Earth. Observation for this Solar System shows planets with orbiting moons. No planet has a moon larger than itself. All orbiting moons are much smaller than their orbit planet. Gravity is pulling each moon to its planet but because they are orbiting they stay at pretty much a constant distance from their planet. The smaller body always orbits the larger body. Using rules of trigonometry and science the distance and size and mass of the Sun in comparison to the Earth has been determined by scientists. And very few people would doubt these results. The size and mass of the Sun is so large in comparison with the Earth that the only conclusion that could be drawn is that the Earth orbits the Sun. It would be a scientific impossibility or absurdity to even think that the Sun would orbit the Earth.

And an extension of Galileo's experiment can be easily done to prove this. Take two balls to the top of a building. OK you may need to get proper authorization to do this safely. And have them dropped closely in distance [from the same height] and time. Allow a second or two. Any building over 64ft or 20 meters high should suffice. Drop the first ball. Count one second and then drop the second ball. If the Sun is orbiting the Earth [the much larger body being pulled to the smaller] as these people postulate then the Earth should rush up to contact the first ball dropped. As the Earth is rushing up you then drop the second ball one second after the first. Since the Earth is already accelerating toward the first ball dropped its initial velocity is no longer zero in relation to the balls and adding the act of gravity toward the second ball will mean that less time will be needed for its impact. This simple scientific experiment will show that the total impact time for each of these two balls from the same height is in fact the same just as Galileo found out. Hence the Earth has not moved in relation to these two balls. And the conclusion of this experiment is simply that the Earth would orbit the Sun and not the other way round!

Hence the creation calendar and lunar sabbath bunch can easily be shown to be wrong on this belief also.

More fun stuff... Suspending the Earth

The logic of the above experiment may be slightly flawed though its supposed to be since the premise it is built upon of the much larger body orbiting the smaller is obviously wrong. However overnight I have thought up a much more novel experiment. In fact, if the Sun orbit bunch are correct [they're not] the results of this experiment will be spectacularly amazing and should be actually workable—in this day of rapid electronic communications. Here it is:

Position two experiment places at exact opposites on the Earth's surface. Have one person at each experiment position hold a ball of equal mass and drop them at precisely the exact same time. And the timing of this could be electronically determined. Any delay error in time dropping could easily be adjusted for by using fractions of a second beep pulses. So if it was determined that there is a delay of say 5 seconds then the second place would drop their ball say at 5 second beep pulses before the first and so on. This could be done until the exact same moment in time is reached. And wallah! Guess what would happen?

When the exact same point in time is reached and the two balls are released according to the people who believe the Sun is orbiting the Earth, the Earth will try to fall to the balls at the exact same time. The balls are the same mass so the attraction is equal at the exact opposite sides of the Earth.

If the Sun orbit bunch are correct in their belief the Earth should then be suspended between the two balls and actually not move at all. And to the observers at both sides of the Earth the balls will not drop but just float in position where they have been released at their designated height above the ground.

This result should be observable and give some amazing photographs [video etc] that the Sun orbit believers could then display to all the amazed inhabitants of this planet. So we can all wait with great trepidation for the amazing results of this experiment.

Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this one.

And again... Axial Tilt of Earth and Seasons

The Earth has an axial tilt of about 23.4° and this is unlikely to be challenged by the most ardent believer in the Sun orbiting the Earth.

In astronomy, axial tilt (also called obliquity) is the angle between an object's rotational axis and the perpendicular to its Orbital plane, both oriented by the right hand rule.
Over the course of an orbit, the angle of the axial tilt does not change, and the orientation of the axis remains the same relative to the background stars. This causes one pole to be directed toward the Sun on one side of the orbit, and the other pole on the other side, the cause of the seasons on the Earth.
The Earth currently has an axial tilt of about 23.4. This value remains approximately the same relative to a stationary orbital plane throughout the cycles of precession.

The point? Well we could consider the Earth like a large spinning top. Any child who has played with a spinning top realises that the top does not fall over as expected while it is spinning. It seems to stay in an upright position defying gravity. This effect is used in gyroscopes:

A gyroscope is a device for measuring or maintaining orientation, based on the principles of angular momentum. Mechanically, a gyroscope is a spinning wheel or disc in which the axle is free to assume any orientation.
The device's orientation remains nearly fixed, regardless of the mounting platform's motion, because mounting the device in a gimbal minimizes external torque.
Applications of gyroscopes include inertial navigation systems where magnetic compasses would not work (as in the Hubble telescope) or would not be precise enough (as in ICBMs), or for the stabilization of flying vehicles like radio-controlled helicopters or unmanned aerial vehicles. Due to their precision, gyroscopes are also used in gyrotheodolites to maintain direction in tunnel mining.

And this should drive home the point of the first quote: that the axial tilt of the Earth does not change and neither does the orientation of the Earth's axis relative to the stars. And how does this impact the belief of the Sun orbiting the Earth?

Well if the Sun is orbiting the Earth and the orientation of the Earth's axis does not change then any location on the planet stays in the same position relative to the Sun at the same time each day. So any given location on the Earth in either hemisphere in "Summer" would be in that season eternally. Similarly for any location in "Winter". There would be no change.

No position on the Earth would have a change in season. So for any Earth location there would be no Summer followed by Winter. There would be no change in seasons anywhere!

And the obvious conclusion? The Sun does not orbit the Earth!

And again... The Lunar Synodic Month!

Well this is embarrassing. Probably something like 6 months from running into this material on the Sun orbiting the Earth and putting up the above answers I just thought of this. And on a queries page for the new moon worship day! The lunar month! As I said it's a little embarrassing.

OK here it is. If the Sun is orbiting the Earth then just how long would a lunar synodic month be? Think about it. And this really messes up the lunar sabbath theory, doesn't it?

This needs a bit of an explanation. The lunar synodic month is the time it takes the moon to orbit the Earth from one new moon to the next.

Umm... when is the new moon? When the moon is between the Earth and the Sun! If the Sun is orbiting the Earth on a daily basis how often will this happen? Like I said, think about it. And this really messes up everything for those wanting to believe in the lunar sabbath theory. A real big mess.

Obviously the Sun does not orbit the Earth!

Should Christians keep or observe the feasts of the Old Testament?

There is a connection here with the New Moon Worship Day as mentioned in Colossians 2:16. And I give these a passing mention on our Worship Day page:
Is the New Moon Worship Day a sabbath day of rest?

According to Colossians we are not to judge any one with respect to these days. Anyway, a query has come in about this and I can now give a more lengthy answer to this question.

The correspondence referred me to some verses, the main one from the New Testament being 1 Corinthians 5:8 NKJV:

Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

And reference to a video presentation on youtube was also given. So my response to this query follows...

Dear Kelsey

Hi. I didn't say there were no verses in the NT talking about the feasts—just that there appears to be no command in the NT to keep them. As you have found above in 1 Corinthians 5:8 there is definitely a curious mention. I just had a quick look and found another curious one: Acts 18:21. "but took leave of them, saying, 'I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing.' And he sailed from Ephesus." [speaking about Paul]. Note that not all textual authorities mention this and it is missing in the RSV & NRSV [and maybe other versions].

I had a look at the video and he is pretty much saying we should keep them—whether you want to play with the word mandatory or not. Now don't get me wrong—I am not strictly saying you shouldn't keep them. That's up to you—but there is definitely no Bible command [from the NT] for you to keep them. And personally I'm not worried about them as they are no longer necessary. But as a study there is certainly nothing wrong with that—and if that is the direction the video goes in I certainly have no qualms with that. [see my PS below].

And sure, if some Christians want to put a Christian spin on them and actually keep them that is their prerogative and I also see no problem with that. But they should be stated to be completely optional days to be kept. And there is also no reason to keep them as a sabbath day of rest. Well you could even do that if you wanted to but there is definitely no obligation to God to and He would definitely not consider you as sinning if you did not keep any of these days.

And I did state that since these days are mentioned in Colossians as not to judge in respect to etc that any sabbath status that any of these days may have had, that is if any of them did, is now completely defunct in the New Testament era. They are no longer holy days to the Lord.

There was a debate in the early church about keeping these feast days and circumcision etc and the conclusion was not to bother the Gentiles with these things. The admonition was also given that Christians that try to keep the Old Testament Law with circumcision and the feast days were in danger of following another Gospel. See Galatians 1 & 2. Considering this I would be very wary of keeping any of the Old Testament feast days.

Sure, the new moon worship day gets mentioned in Colossians too, but it's also mentioned just about everywhere else in the Bible, OT and NT. Whenever the month is mentioned that also implies the existence of the new moon worship day. So this clearly puts it in a different category to the feast days.

Only two worship days are mentioned for the ages of eternity
Isaiah clearly mentions two worship days that God's people will keep throughout all the ceaseless ages of eternity. Isaiah 66:22,23. And the feast days do not get a mention. They are not there. So there is certainly no reason to keep them now.

A shadow of things to come
Colossians 2:17. And just how were these feast days a shadow of things to come? The earthly sanctuary was a shadow of the one in heaven. And the sacrifices offered on the feast days were a shadow of the final sacrifice of Christ. Hebrews 8:5; 10:1-14—referring to the sacrificial system which had then come to an end.

With the death of Christ the complete sacrificial system had come to a meaningful end along with all the yearly feast days associated with it. Type had met antitype. The shadow had passed away to the reality. And more on the antitype follows...

Type had met antitype
At least with most of these feast days. Many Christians believe that these yearly feast days are also symbolic of certain times and events in the Christian period. Some examples follow. These may vary a little according to your Christian beliefs but they do give a reasonable idea that yes, the feasts do have an antitype:

Firstfruits—resurrection of Christ:

But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. 1 Corinthians 15:20.

Pentecost—actual Pentecost:

When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place. Acts 2:1.

Trumpets—Second Coming:

Lo! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:51,52.

Day of Atonement—Opening of Second Apartment in heavenly sanctuary and Christ's work of final atonement cleansing the heavenly sanctuary. Again depending on your beliefs but one large body of Christians date this as starting in 1844:

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. Revelation 11:19.

Note that the second half of this verse deals with events that will take place when this final ministry of Jesus actually closes.

Anyway you get the idea. It would be pretty pointless trying to keep an annual festival when we are say for example living completely in the antitypical day of atonement.

A more serious consideration: if you want to keep these feast days since they do get a small mention in the New Testament Christian period then they should be undertaken exactly as they would have been undertaken by the apostle who mentions them. We mean here 1 Corinthians 5:8 and Acts 18:21. This was Paul. Before commenting further on this note that Paul also states in the previous verse in Corinthians that our Paschal lamb, Christ, has already been sacrificed.

So this makes the keeping of this feast day completely irrelevant for the Christian. Worse yet, the offering of a lamb on this day would also place us in danger of following another gospel. And a warning against this is clearly given in Galatians, again by Paul. He was definitely a very curious character! But following the guidance of the Holy Spirit and the other apostles he no doubt came to realise that these animal sacrifices all pointed to the cross and were no longer relevant to the Christian period.

And this brings me to my final point. Or two. Again from Paul. Acts 18:21. He was going to keep the coming feast in Jerusalem. There is only one way back then this feast was going to be kept in Jerusalem. And that is with an animal sacrifice. Yes a big problem with that one. And no doubt Paul later realised this sort of activity could lead Christians into following another gospel so gave some very good admonition on this point in his letter to the Galatians.

And the last point of all of this? If you are going to keep these feast days according to Paul's small slip-up in Acts, then you must also keep these feasts in Jerusalem. That's where he was going to keep them.
"I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem". Pretty clear on that one.

So the conclusion here is that if you are going to keep these feast days according to Acts, then you will need to actually offer an animal sacrifice and the location you will have to do this in is in fact Jerusalem.

We could still however end all of this on a positive note.
A Christian re-imaging of these days? We already have a simple representation for one of these feasts. Easter could be considered a Christian response to the Passover festival. Usually this takes the form of an Easter service. Or sermon. And that could easily be done with all of the other feasts too. And they should not be called feasts [as a day, that is] as this would suggest an animal sacrifice and give people the wrong impression.

So a simple service or sermon at different times of the year about each feast and it's relevance to the Christian period would solve this problem completely. And having each feast covered in a sermon on your weekly day of worship also solves the problem of people thinking you are trying to keep the old feast days from the Old Testament. It solves a lot of problems.

If you try and set up a completely different set of days through the year then you could very easily end up with different groups trying to enforce these days as sabbath rest days also and things can very quickly get very messy. If you did go down this track you must clearly state that the days are completely optional and definitely not sabbath rest days. Except of course for any that you place on the weekly worship day. So staying with the weekly worship days and just giving a simple sermon solves a lot of problems.

Just some thoughts. Hope all of this is of some help.
Kind regards

Now I want to mention a bit more about the video:

It is an interesting presentation but I do have some issues with it. And we only need to mention the bits about the feasts as that is your interest.
At the beginning of the presentation the speaker sets up the premise that forever goes beyond the second coming so these feasts are still possibly mandatory for Christians. His reasoning here is a little questionable and does not take into account the concept of conditional prophecy.

Another curious point was trying to build a case for God's Calendar with these Holy Days as still being important for us. This was then reinforced by an approach of making these feasts a rehearsal of better things to come and a good suggestion for Christians to keep them now as it will prepare us for eternity and the keeping of them better there.

Now at this point I would have to say that there is a bit of a mix up occurring here with respect to the covenants and the actual reason that God gave these feast days. The feast days involved sacrifices in the earthly sanctuary that had to do with the transfer of sin from the people to the sanctuary. And on the day of atonement these accumulated sins in the sanctuary were removed by the high priest and put on the scapegoat which was then sent out into the wilderness.

All these sacrifices came to a meaningful end with the death of Christ on the cross. At that point in time all these feast days no longer held any relevance. In fact all these sacrifices and feast days were a burden on the Israelites. And with Jesus this burden was removed:

by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, Ephesians 2:15 RSV.
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, Colossians 2:14,20 KJV.
Then indeed, even the first covenant had ordinances of divine service and the earthly sanctuary.
It was symbolic for the present time in which both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make him who performed the service perfect in regard to the conscience–
concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation. Hebrews 9:1,9,10 NKJV.
But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry which is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises.
For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion for a second.
For he finds fault with them when he says: "The days will come, says the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
In speaking of a new covenant he treats the first as obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. Hebrews 8:6-8,13 RSV.

And there was some contention in the early church to have new believers keep the law of Moses—which would include all of these feast days:

But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up, and said, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses."
The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter.
And after there had been much debate, Peter rose and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
Now therefore why do you make trial of God by putting a yoke upon the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?
After they finished speaking, James replied, "Brethren, listen to me.
Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God,
but should write to them to abstain from the pollutions of idols and from unchastity and from what is strangled and from blood.
Acts 15:5-7,10,13,19,20.

All these extra rules and regulations were contrary to us and a burden and a yoke. These yearly feasts were definitely a shadow of better things to come, but they are not to be considered as rehearsals for something better we are going to do in heaven.

And note especially Hebrews 8:13. God considered these yearly feasts as obsolete, growing old, and ready to vanish away.
That's a little bit different to what is being presented on the video.

* The year 2013 was a bumper year for the Jewish calendar with half of the Jewish new moon days actually falling on the same day as the astronomical new moon and a couple actually fell BEFORE the astronomical new moon dates!

Isaiah 66:22, 23

Bible texts from:
New Revised Standard Version of the Bible, 1989 unless otherwise referenced.

1. OK this title is just badly worded. Really very badly worded. And it is taken straight from the document obtained from the creation calendar site it was found on. The Earth rotates about its axis. So to say it rotates around the Sun is just plain awful english. Similarly for the Sun revolving. Yes the Sun also revolves slowly about its own axis. So to say the Sun revolves around the Earth again is also just plain awful english as is maybe this sentence also!

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Most Christians keep Sunday as one day in seven in recognition of the weekly cycle of worship set up at the creation of this world. After completing His act of creating this world, the Lord rested on the seventh day and sanctified it and made it holy. As stated previously, in recognition of this fact, most Christians worship on Sunday, following a weekly cycle of seven days. But there is some debate whether Sunday, the first day of the week, is really the correct day for Christians to worship on. See the related study: Which DAY should Christians KEEP?

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Does the New Moon worship day start at the conjunction?
Will the New Moon worship days fall on a seventh-day in the new earth?
The lunar sabbath theory
Does the earth rotate around the sun, or does the sun revolve around the earth?
Suspending the Earth between two balls
Axial Tilt of Earth and Seasons
The Lunar Synodic Month
Should Christians keep or observe the feasts of the Old Testament?

: The New Moon worship day information page

Stephen Buckley
Last revised: 20 Jun 2014.